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	<title>Comments on: RailsConf Panel: Testing Rails apps with Mike Clark</title>
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	<description>its a mirror - get it? Erik Kastner's blog.</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The most important things I learned about Rails development from RailsConf and RailsDay at Meta &#124; ateM</title>
		<link>http://metaatem.net/2006/06/24/railsconf-panel-testing-rails-apps-with-mike-clark#comment-1676</link>
		<dc:creator>The most important things I learned about Rails development from RailsConf and RailsDay at Meta &#124; ateM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Testing isn&#8217;t scary!  This was HUGE for me. I never tested because I thought it was hard and scary. During my RailsDay project (My one goal), I decided to just go for it with testing. You know what I found? It&#8217;s EASY. That plus Mike Clark&#8217;s Panel really taught me not only the easy of testing, but the utility. Here&#8217;s a side story, I just moved my app from Text Drive to my local server. It wasn&#8217;t working at all, so I decided to give my out of date tests a run (I gave up TDD at about 7pm on RailsDay), a LOT of them failed. It took some time to get them running, but now it works better. And each bug report that goes in gets a test case now. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Testing isn&#8217;t scary!  This was HUGE for me. I never tested because I thought it was hard and scary. During my RailsDay project (My one goal), I decided to just go for it with testing. You know what I found? It&#8217;s EASY. That plus Mike Clark&#8217;s Panel really taught me not only the easy of testing, but the utility. Here&#8217;s a side story, I just moved my app from Text Drive to my local server. It wasn&#8217;t working at all, so I decided to give my out of date tests a run (I gave up TDD at about 7pm on RailsDay), a LOT of them failed. It took some time to get them running, but now it works better. And each bug report that goes in gets a test case now. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Manfred Stienstra</title>
		<link>http://metaatem.net/2006/06/24/railsconf-panel-testing-rails-apps-with-mike-clark#comment-1647</link>
		<dc:creator>Manfred Stienstra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's kind of stupid to test existing validations, that's just double testing the framework. I don't think people should use this in examples, it can be really confusing to people new to testing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kind of stupid to test existing validations, that&#8217;s just double testing the framework. I don&#8217;t think people should use this in examples, it can be really confusing to people new to testing.</p>
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